Harmac Pacific in Nanaimo is an important, proudly employee-owned mill in our ecosystem. The pulp sector has a bit of an easier path in terms of its ability to tap into foreign markets. Wood is an involved process, so having boots on the ground so we can work with architects and engineers, governments and building code officials in Japan is important.
It took us 20 years to get OSB, or oriented strand board, into Japan because of the steps to get it operationalized and into the system. Mid-ply wall systems took us 10 years. That's for seismic strength and whatnot.
We did have a reduction in funding. Our hope is that the funding is going to be more than restored. That will be critical, because once you come out, you need to stay in and you need to continue investing, in our case, for the long run.