Vic Toews at the Justice and Human Rights Committee

I don't want to go into the details of the 1996 bill, which eliminated the right of victims to collect restitution, for example, through the courts. In fact, they were told to go out and get a civil order and then try to enforce a civil order for restitution against, for example, gang members. It was absolutely horrendous in terms of what it did to the administration of justice. Can you imagine a senior person in Montreal whose fence has been destroyed by a street gang member and the gang member has been ordered to give restitution--