Right. So I guess there's no way of figuring out what a prosecutor, in offering something to a defence lawyer, might put on the table in order to secure a conviction. But we do know that no prior history of people pleading guilty as a matter of remorse under section 718 seemed to make up the bulk of these things.
The other thing, which I could finish on, that seems to be very clear from your statistics—you correct me if I'm wrong, because I want to make sure I'm getting through to the other side over there, to make sure my friend from Albert County, right across the river, is listening—is that the offenders who were given conditional sentences were under supervision or conditions, or however you want to put it, for longer periods of time on average than those who were given what the proponents of this bill might consider harsher sentences, i.e., probation and conditional sentence together or prison.
The term of the overseers of the population—the time they had to enforce conditions, many of which are built around rehabilitation, such as house arrest and community involvement and counselling and treatment and so on—was longer than if you were just to take the same offence and throw someone in prison.
I see your stats being something like—I know you're using terms like “high average”, and that threw me off a bit—453 days for a conditional sentence on average compared with prison of 47 days, which is a difference of about ten times.
Tell me how I've skewed that to my own benefit here.