Just as a general proposition, there is always the concern of the difference between perception and reality, as it relates to violent offences, and how judges treat those violence offences, because--and I believe this point was made by Ms. Schurman--the everyday person who hears the actual facts of everything that is before a judge often has a very different view from that arising as a result of the media view. Of course when we're talking about these situations, we are talking about a smaller percentage of conditional sentence orders that relate to these particular problem areas we hear about as it relates to violent offenders, and that's one reason why the CBA has taken this position. You have a definable, smaller problem that does not require this expansive solution that has its negative consequences.
So that's a general comment that I hope is somewhat responsive to what you have suggested.
As to how to amend this bill, as I say, the CBA takes the position that a different redraft is necessary, which gives a definition of those specific offences for which a conditional sentence either is not available or presumptively is not available, and that the legislation ought to be drafted on that basis, which involves really not a redrafting of what we have here but starting again with a different scenario.