Correct. Some of it's a lack of understanding of what judges are confronted with, but they complained about judges in terms of sentencing. In particular, the number one issue around sentencing was the giving of conditional sentences inappropriately for serious crimes. I know it's anecdotal, but it was at all our sites: London, Toronto, Orillia, Windsor, Belleville, Sault Ste. Marie—the ten sites. That was the number one refrain from people on the front lines, crime victims, and survivors.
On October 4th, 2006. See this statement in context.