I'm going to reiterate that consultation needs to take place. The removal of conditional sentences, or whatever you call it--I see it as a removal--will greatly impact aboriginal people. It would add to the overrepresentation of aboriginal people in the justice system.
We are consistently seeing a lack of programming. Aboriginal people are always getting out of jail last. They are always classified higher, at maximum--60% of aboriginal women in jail are maximum; 46% are medium.
I think you need to consult with the organizations that are acting as the voice of these women. Clearly, being in an institution.... You always hear the argument, “Who's going to listen to them?” If they can't do it, then I need to speak on their behalf. Consulting, hearing these women's stories, and hearing about...again, I'm going to go back to the root causes of why these people are in jail. At least through the consultation process you will be able to say that we took the time to listen, we took the time to address the overrepresentation of aboriginal people, and we're looking in a direction to address aboriginal women in particular in regard to Bill C-9.
I still believe that consultation is probably the route to go.