A part of the strategy is indeed looking at conditional and alternative sentencing, at defined sentencing like what's going on in Toronto. Actually, on the service in Toronto, it would be nice if we had more time to hear some of the real stories that happen through this institution, but they're cited in a number of studies and in a number of books in terms of the effect of their services, their sentencing services, the elders they work with, the healers they work with, in terms of the impact on individuals and the impact on communities. That's exactly the type of thing that's cited in the Manitoba justice inquiry.
