It's astonishing. Where's the evidence they're making this decision on? The advice from the department is not to cut the program.
You just said the evaluation was remarkable. Commendation of the program should keep it going. So it's astounding that there's any suggestion to cut this.
Leaving that, the minister's second point was that it wasn't doing anything, that there were all sorts of other groups doing this. If they were all doing this, and available to do so, why were there so many projects?
I'm assuming you would disagree with the statement that they were not providing value for money, as the minister said. What was all this valuable work they were doing, if there were all these other groups that could do it? Was there a need for it?