Thank you, Mr. Hanger.
I want to thank the minister. If I'm correct, this is your fourth or fifth visit to this committee. Certainly you've been very generous with your time, and we appreciate your candour here today.
My question relates to what my colleague Mr. Thompson was discussing so eloquently before, that we really don't need the crutch of taxpayer dollars to have good policy development when it comes to law in Canada. You look at MADD, and do they need the crutch of taxpayer dollars to put forward ideas on back levels? Did Joe Wamback in Newmarket, when we talked about young offenders? Certainly not.
The question I'd have for you, Minister, would be this: is there an example you can share with us of a group that doesn't require taxpayer dollars whose proposals or policy developments ideas you found useful for you and your department?