Mr. Chairman, on a point of order, I'll just get the questions out, and then the minister's passion can overfloweth the cup.
Levitt and Kessler is one you mentioned. But as you know, we have Loftin and McDowell and all these other competing studies that on the whole suggest that the deterrent effect of increased mandatory minimums is not there. The empirical studies don't support your allegations that this will work, and we've seen lukewarm responses on these studies in general.
On the aboriginal aspect, I don't think you fairly answered Mr. Bagnell's question. You make it sound in your answer—and I'll wait until you get your advice before I ask this pertinent question—