Well the minister is wrong, because we did something. We actually brought in conditional sentences, which reduced that dramatically and improved the effectiveness of the system, fortunately, throughout his attempt in opposition to get rid of that success.
I'd like to ask the minister if he had any input.... Yesterday he made a cut, with no support from the department, no evidence from the department that the item, the Law Commission, should have been cut. Did he get any input from the department that he should impose these mandatory minimums and that they would actually be effective and would actually improve safety?