If I could just respond for one second, as a citizen, one has an opinion, but I'm not here as a citizen. I'm here as a representative of Legal Aid Ontario, so I fully understand. As I said, I've been here all day, so I understand the nature of the debate about the bill. All I'm trying to say is that this bill, along with all the other initiatives that the provincial and federal governments are bringing to bear on the problem, are driving up costs throughout the system. All levels of legislature need to be aware of that and be conscious that all parts of the justice system need to be funded.
I can now give a bit of an answer to Monsieur Ménard, although I see I've lost him. It's come back to me that the request of the provinces in relation to criminal legal aid has been a return to the historic original funding levels, meaning a full, fifty-fifty sharing in the criminal legal aid expenditures. That's what the demand is for.
Thank you.