Thank you all for coming; we really appreciate it.
You should be thankful Myron Thompson is not here.
I particularly appreciated your testimony, Graham, because you're one person who has worked with prisoners for a long time. We have the academics and people who have brief interaction with them, but you've worked with them for a long time, and that's very important to me and increases the importance of your testimony. I was surprised you talked about all the scientific evidence when you have the on-the-ground evidence.
I'd like to say that if Mr. Borovoy and Mr. Stewart made their speeches in Parliament, I can't imagine that anyone would vote for this bill. I wish you were in Parliament.
Mr. Borovoy, I'm not a lawyer. On the technical points of the constitutional exemption in the Latimer case, can you tell me if that exemption would be available for people if this particular bill should pass? Could they be exempted from these harsh and unusual punishments, unusual cases, by that exemption?