Thank you all for coming.
Mr. Brodeur, you talked a little earlier about an effect of incarceration. But if a 20-year-old is put in jail for five or seven years—a couple of extra years, because of this bill—of course we'll be safer because they can't do anything. But then there are the negative effects that many witnesses, even the chief of police, told us about: they learn more crime in jail, they become less social, fit in.... Then they all get out. As you said, the average is less than three years, so they're going to be out for a long time and more dangerous.
If you take it over their entire life cycle, are we actually safer?