I don't want it to be inferred for a moment that we would just neglect the impact from having individuals using guns in the most heinous, the most dangerous ways, and so on. There are a lot of dangerous people in this country who are in prison. I've had, I guess you can call it, the opportunity to work with many of them for many years. Yes, they're very dangerous, and the right place for them is in penitentiary for the period of time required, until they can be safely reintegrated into society. And that decision is made in an objective fashion.
That said, where we differ perhaps is that we believe judges should be allowed to judge. They have all the facts in front of them. The defence made their presentation, the prosecutor theirs. The sentence, if a finding of guilt, comes about, and then the judge should determine, based on all the factors that are brought to bear, what the appropriate sentence should be for that individual.