You've stated that it does not work. We've heard compelling testimony, from Toronto and elsewhere, that when you take individuals who continually victimize others with guns out of the community, when they are not in the community and they're detained, the violent crime goes down. I haven't heard anyone persuade me that when someone is in jail, whether they're being rehabilitated or not, whether they were deterred by the sentence they got or not, when they're in jail for that period they are not out on the street committing crimes. I think that's evident.
On December 6th, 2006. See this statement in context.