Could I add something as well?
Our organization strives to be non-partisan and we try to meet with members from all political parties to advance our issues. With the previous government, in fact, and with the last two previous prime ministers and justice ministers, we had good relationships. In the fall of 2001 we appeared 11 times in support of government initiatives following 9/11. Certainly our experience has been that if you were to look at policing 15 years ago, you probably wouldn't have seen police associations in front of these committees on a regular basis, but we found that decisions were being made in isolation and that the concerns or interests of police weren't being brought forward.
Not only federally but also provincially, our associations have become much more active—not partisan, but more active—in bringing the issues and the concerns of front-line police officers forward. In Ontario—