Sure.
The idea of making them hybrid offences is so that we can proceed with a more serious offence for particularly heinous crimes. Certainly we think that the majority of crimes would still be convicted as summary conviction offences, but in the case of repeat offences or particularly heinous crimes that are very violent or where there's huge animal suffering involved, the society definitely thinks it's appropriate to prosecute those as hybrid offences.
So it's recognizing that animal crimes are a form of violence in our society that can be charged more seriously.
Could I respond to the last question you had, just quickly?