It's a difficult one. I've worked with municipal judges, and it was clear they have very little time to make those decisions.
On the other hand, I'll restate my perspective. If a judge feels that in fact there are many, many others who are guilty and they are not being convicted, what does that do? The probability of being arrested right now is so low in Canada, and maybe that has an impact. I don't know, but we have to look at it.
It's clear that the judges don't see this as a crime in the way they see armed robbery as a crime. There's a consensus in the magistrature about that. It won't change by making more severe penalties.