I think you need to keep in mind in all of this that your actual chance right now of being apprehended if you're driving while impaired is quite low. That applies whether you're a first-time, second-time, third-time, or fourteenth-time offender. So that may have something to do with the statistics we see now on the low number of second offenders and multiple offenders that come back into the system.
I think the system is challenging for individuals to deal with. In good jurisdictions about 60% of individuals come back into the system after completing remedial programs, interlock programs, and getting relicensed. But then it seems there's a substantial portion we don't see any more. We're concerned about them and what they're doing out on the road.
That's one of the reasons why we're in favour of more effective interlock legislation that will provide a way to keep these folks involved and engaged in the system, rather than perhaps being out driving without a licence or insurance. So that's a major concern for us.