On your last point, certainly there may be an appetite for it; the question is whether or not it actually has grounding in a court of law. Partly the study is determining what we can do to address the issue, and how to do it, in terms of legislation.
So if it is a recommendation that you're making on behalf of the membership, I think it might be in your best interest to find out and determine whether or not that actually would survive a challenge, because at this point I'm not sure it would. But thanks, I do appreciate that.
To Mr. Murie, I want to be clear on a couple of the comments you made. One thing you said at the outset was that you're not necessarily in favour of harsher penalties because that won't necessarily drive down the number of impaired driving convictions we have in this country. Is that fair?