I think, Mr. Bagnell, they're involved with organized crime almost by definition. My analysis of what this bill is covering are groups of individuals who are strung out many times in different countries. Each person has a component of this. Again, I'm satisfied the penalties are reasonable and appropriate in the circumstances, but I wouldn't want to add one more component, that if you can prove this is part of a gang or part of organized crime...because almost by definition this is organized crime. That's what we're talking about here.
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