I will say this, Monsieur Ménard, Mr. LeBlanc, committee members, and especially to the witnesses. Unfortunately this is a situation that the committee is caught in. There have been decisions in the past—I'm talking to the witnesses right now—that unfortunately have introduced or attempted to introduce matters into the committee that are not part of the committee mandate. I have ruled that out of order on a previous motion. I continue to rule it out of order.
I apologize to the committee's witnesses for their being unable to testify here. I find that very unfortunate, because the matter is going to be bogged down again. And on that basis—