Evidence of meeting #1 for Justice and Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was motions.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Miriam Burke

4 p.m.

NDP

Libby Davies NDP Vancouver East, BC

—it would be an amendment unless he chose to withdraw it.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Mr. Moore has chosen to make the motion, which deletes that part of what you see written. We'll vote on that, and if that fails, we'll go back to Mr. Murphy and he can make the original motion.

I'll call the question on the motion, which is the one that Mr. Moore has made.

(Motion negatived)

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Mr. Murphy, did you want to make the original motion?

4 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

I move that the motion listed as number 10, which begins “That forty-eight (48) hours' notice be required...” in its full wording, be the routine motion.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Is there any debate on that?

(Motion agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Madam Clerk, do you want more time when I call the question?

4 p.m.

The Clerk

I'm okay. I'll ask for it when I need it.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Okay.

Mr. Petit.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Daniel Petit Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

I made a motion. I read it in its entirety. The clerk is required to write it down and I feel that it should be put to a vote as presented. I said it, I moved it. The chair did not ask me if it was seconded or not. I made the motion. Period. Now let us see if it has a seconder or not.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Mr. Moore has already made that motion.

Monsieur Petit, we dealt with Mr. Moore's motion, which I believe is what you were talking about, and it failed, and then we moved to Mr. Murphy's motion, which is the one that was—

4 p.m.

Conservative

Daniel Petit Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

Mr. Moore's text was not complete. I put before you a complete motion saying exactly what I want and reflecting both my intention and my parliamentary secretary's. It should at least be brought forward. Mr. Moore discussed a part of it and no one seemed to understand. I made a clear, precise motion that takes nothing away from any of the parties here. It is just so that things work better. So I think that the motion is complete. Just because something has been voted down, it does not mean that my motion should not be introduced. I am introducing it, and, if it is defeated, we move on. So here it is. It is clear. Let me repeat it: that 48 hours' notice be required for any substantive motion to be considered by the committee, and that the notice of motion be filed with the Clerk of the Committee and distributed to members in both official languages. It is clear. No one loses anything. It lets us do better work and that is what we should be about. So I am making the motion and asking if anyone wants to second it. Then we can vote.

That is all, Mr. Chair.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Monsieur Petit, with respect, I believe the motion that you've just read into the record is exactly what Mr. Moore had moved. Perhaps you could consult with Mr. Moore to double-check that, but I believe that's the case.

4:05 p.m.

Bloc

Réal Ménard Bloc Hochelaga, QC

Speak up.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Daniel Petit Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

Mr. Chair, when I voted, it was on a part of what the parliamentary secretary had proposed and not on all of it. My apologies. This perhaps explains it. If it really is the same motion, I will withdraw mine. But I thought it was only part. I moved it in its entirety.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

It was the same thing. Thank you.

We have Mr. Murphy's motion, which I believe passed, so now we should move on to number 10, which is on time for questioning of witnesses.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Libby Davies NDP Vancouver East, BC

I'd like to move the motion as it is.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

We have a motion. Is there any discussion?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Dominic LeBlanc Liberal Beauséjour, NB

Is it the last paragraph?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Yes, it's the last paragraph, on time for questioning witnesses.

Mr. Moore.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rob Moore Conservative Fundy Royal, NB

I know this is what we followed last time, but just because we have a different composition of the committee, walk us through a round. My understanding is that it would be Liberal, Bloc, NDP, Conservative; Liberal, Bloc, Conservative; Liberal, Conservative; and then a Conservative if that person has not had a turn.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

Yes.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rob Moore Conservative Fundy Royal, NB

All right. That's fine.

4:05 p.m.

An hon. member

Mr. Chair, I move to vote.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Ed Fast

We have a motion on the floor already.

4:05 p.m.

An hon. member

I move that we vote on that.