You are entirely correct to raise the question. It is very difficult. We were talking about this earlier in the corridor. In the case of street gangs, the problem is that they have truly unstable structures. This is totally different from the other criminal groups.
I was telling you earlier that in a group of 30 individuals, three or four members were still there in a relatively stable way over the years. The cell or the various companies that form the base change virtually daily, if not hourly. On the other hand, the leaders climb quietly up the ranks. Of course, these young people get older, and join somewhat more structured criminal groups. These are the individuals we come across a little farther on. They are the ones we are going after in many cases. We also take action in the case of the young people, but much more from a preventive angle than an enforcement angle. These are often youth whose ages range from about 12 or 13 or 14 to 22 or 23 years.
When it comes to the leaders of the street gangs we are now seeing on the ground in Montreal, these are people of about 30. They are adults and are starting to move into a structure I would describe as somewhat more refined. They look a little more like traditional organized crime. I said earlier that in some operations, some of the individuals convicted of membership in a criminal organization were about 30 years old. In other operations or investigations, should we have to repeat the same procedures in the case of those people? I don't think so. However, for the young people, this is still a problem. We don't deny that. It is difficult to control at present.