I'm going to stop you there. I'm not a supporter of the terrorist list we created. I have spoken out publicly about that. But we're talking here—if I understand Mr. Ménard's position on this—of a judicial process. It seems to me that goes a long way to lending credibility to this process, a judicial process that would go on prior to anybody being put on the list. So we wouldn't be drawing from international lists, as we are with the terrorist groups. God only knows what kind of evidence goes into establishing why these groups get put onto the list and why they get off again.
Anyway, it just seems to me that what we're talking about would have much more credibility in terms of human rights, civil liberties, and the charter than our existing terrorist list, for a problem that I believe—going back to section 1 of the charter—confronts this country at a more serious level in terms of the safety of our citizens than any fear we should have from terrorists. And I think the Supreme Court would agree with that factual analysis.
Given those facts, I'm with Mr. Ménard; I'm having some difficulty with the department's position in being so reluctant to proceed on this.