Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, witnesses, for being here.
Mr. Mainella, I'm going to start with you. I would like to follow up on this point, which I was going to raise before Professor Roach did, but he beat me to it. What about the practical problem? If we went ahead with this concept we would list the groups. We don't list individuals. So how practical is it going to be for shortening the trials? Because we're still going to have to prove in each case that those individuals who are charged as being members of the organization are in fact members of the organization. That's question number one.
On the comment on the Lesage and Code report, do you see that as going reasonably successfully, if those changes were implemented, to resolving the difficulty with the lengthy trials?
Finally, Professor Roach, if I understand Mr. Ménard's approach, he is looking not at duplicating the ATA listing approach but in fact using a judicial model. I don't know if you've conceived of that kind of an approach. So you wouldn't have this blurring of responsibility and separation of powers. Also, it seems to me that it would do away with any of the charter arguments if it was in fact, say, a panel of three Superior Court judges gathered from around the country on a periodic basis to have a trial as to whether this group being charged as a criminal organization would in fact meet that test.