Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to thank you all for being here.
Mr. MacRury, the point you raised with regard to clauses 7 and 9 is the same point that I had raised with the minister and the officials when they were here. The justification we got, particularly with regard to proposed section 368.2, was that they specifically wanted to exclude it from section 25 of the code because they would be using it so often. The paperwork of having to report it would become so difficult that they may in fact not use the technique, one of the tools.
I must admit that I didn't catch it at the time, but I wasn't sure, after I thought about the answers later--this was one of those bright thoughts you have after the fact rather than at the time--how they would know that in terms of how often they would use it. Superintendent White or Inspector Petryshyn, you might be able to make some comment on that. From your experience with prosecutions, perhaps, does that make sense?
Finally, on the same point, Ms. Stoddart, again I think I missed the significance of what's in clause 7. It's not just police forces who would be asking this; it's also the Canadian Forces, along with the department or agency of a federal or provincial government. Any one of those agencies can now ask for a forged document, in effect, to be created. I'm just wondering if you would have any concerns about the potential for abuse there, given that you have such a broad scope of agencies who might in fact be asking for that.
Mr. MacRury, perhaps I can start with you, please.