Let me tell you the problem I'm having with this.
I sat on the committee when we did the review of Public Safety and section 25 when it came up for its mandatory five-year review. We were told at that time very clearly that it had hardly ever been used. I think we had five reports a year. We're undercover now. So are police forces breaking the law now and not reporting it?
I'm having some real difficulty understanding how prevalent this is, because if it is so prevalent right now before this comes into effect, how come it's not being reported?