Mr. Minister, it seems that you're placing a great deal of emphasis for these amendments that you're proposing on the impact it has on the families, and I think we can all share that. But I would suggest to you there's an alternative that would be less draconian than getting rid of this completely, for the reason that we shouldn't get rid of it and why we first brought it in. You could introduce amendments to the code that would require on every application that there be a review that would not involve the family. In all of these that we get, the majority of them, the initial applications, and even oftentimes the second and third application, people are turned down. So rather than having the families and friends and other people who are associated with the victims of the murders going through this every time, you would have a judge and jury look at it.
We know that with a large number of these the recommendations coming out of the Correctional Services psychiatric and psychological reports make it obvious that this person is not going to be successful. So rather than putting the families through it, build in an interim phase, where a judge and jury would look at the situation, as the system allows for, and then not involve the families, because it would be turned down almost automatically because it's obvious this person is not eligible at this time. That would deal, I would suggest to you, to a great extent with the trauma the families are put through.