I was a crown prosecutor for eight years and I saw and spoke to those victims. So I know exactly what you're saying, sir. I would hope my submissions to you today reflect our genuine concern to stop repeat drinking and driving while at the same time not abandoning our charter and constitutional principles.
As a criminal defence lawyer, if the limit was 0.02, I would get more business. I hope it enhances the credibility of my submissions to you to say that we're not saying to do that, because we don't think it would be effective. So when I talk about ignition interlock, none of this is to minimize the impact these cases have on families.