You're obviously entitled to your view on that, and I will fight for your right to express it and hold it. But I think there is a very clear distinction that has historically been made between what a maximum is supposed to say about an offence and the idea that a minimum will reduce judicial discretion. That is the purpose of the minimum. The purpose of the minimum is not to allow the judge to do anything other than that.
That is the objection we have on that aspect.