Some of these activities are very difficult to detect at the front end. Most times, if not all times, police engagement comes because these offences have taken place and we have quantified victims. At one time in Ontario, I was a member of the security enforcement review committee and the joint agency intelligence liaison committee. They were regulatory and police based. We would have ongoing discussions about different trends, engagement techniques, and people. But that ended around 2003, which was when IMET came to be.
On November 23rd, 2009. See this statement in context.