Yes, just very briefly.
Thank you for coming, Minister.
I haven't been involved with Bill C-9, but I do have a concern about fraud—I'll call it white collar crime—crimes that result in economic loss to persons, often elderly people, people without other resources. What we hear in that bill quite often is the lack of effective restitution instruments. One of the arguments, for Bill C-9 anyway, that seemed compelling is that certain persons convicted in the fraud area would be better off after a while, after denunciation was served, I guess, in getting out there and having means to make restitution to their victims. I guess in a general sense we've been hearing from provinces that they're going to take their own steps with respect to restitutionary efforts. What is your perspective on meeting the dual needs of punishment and making sure victims of fraud get restitution?