Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I would like to thank all three of you for your testimony. I don't think you have to work very hard, Ms. Goyette and Ms. Gaudreault, to persuade us of your position on the bill, and particularly on the flaws it demonstrates rather plainly. In the Liberal Party, we are quite supportive of the questions and problems you raise.
There are victims when crimes are committed. If we prevent those crimes, the probability of there being victims is much lower. That equation really is pretty simple. We need to put more emphasis on prevention and on combating poverty, among other things. Ms. Gaudreault, Ms. Goyette, you both said that. In my opinion, the best way to avoid having victims is to prevent crimes.
Regarding what you said, in particular about clause 3 and measures proportional to the seriousness of the offence, what are you relying on when you say that what is proposed in the present bill goes against prevention, that it does not guarantee a better outcome for victims?