We heard across the country that the specific case in youth is that they're unable, diminished--I won't say capacity, but they're not adults. They don't have the same ability to form intent. That's the point of having a separate YCJA, having civil law not creep into their liability. So if that's the case, how can they have this specific intent and be quite savvy in the system as it is? How can the specific deterrents the minister speaks of work?
