Minister, our positions on those matters are diametrically opposed , but I still did my share to send criminals in prison and I succeeded well, which you should know.
You often repeat that you want to be tough on crime. We have an example to the south of our country, the United States, where politicians wanted to be tough on crime. The rate of incarceration by 100,000 population is now around 730. In Canada, this rate is around 116. Those are last year's statistics. The United States is the country that put more people in prison, taking into account its population, than any other country in the world. Almost a quarter of all inmates on Earth are in American prisons. Where did you get this idea that to be tough on crime would solve the crime problem? How far are you ready to go? The rate here is 116. When will you be satisfied, when will you think that we punish criminals enough? What figure would you accept: 500, 300, 400 or 600 persons per 100,000 population?