As you just said a couple of seconds ago, it's really difficult. The word “closure” is not something that we use often with the people we work with, because, as you said, in cases of homicide there really can be no closure.
The Bagbys are here trying to make a change for the better, to protect society, and that is something that a lot of the families that we have seen over the years have a strong need to do, to ensure that no one else is harmed in the way they have been harmed. We just commend them again for being here and sharing with us.
I think our paper highlights a lot of our concerns. With bail in this country, judges have to do a better job of looking at the risk to children, not just in the case of accused murderers but in cases of domestic violence. In our paper for you today we listed three examples of the serious problems that are going on in this country with spouses who are released on bail and go on to harass and harm their ex-husband or ex-wife and their children again and again. In the extreme cases we see familial homicides happening.