Okay--but that's anecdotal.
One of the things that has been troubling me, to pick up on perhaps some of the points that Mr. Wamback has been making, is that I'm trying to draw a conclusion that I wonder if any of you either support or oppose. We know that we are able to deal with the most violent youths--identified with murder and other really serious crimes--by moving them into adult sentencing. I have the impression, and I won't say it's any more than that, that there's another relatively small group--I know that Mr. Wamback won't agree with this, in terms of its size--that our courts would not consider treating as adults for sentencing purposes but the existing system is not able to cope with. A lot of these would be repeat offenders, starting off with less serious crimes and moving into more violent crimes before moving up to that final stage and going into the adult system.
So I guess I have two questions. One, if my perception is correct that there is that group, could you confirm that or deny it? Two, if you confirm it, are there any suggestions as to how we might deal with them from a legislative standpoint? That's if we should deal with them differently from what we are now.