Well, I'm going to answer your two questions.
One, I don't believe that the bill is asking for longer sentencing. I've already stated earlier that adult sentencing may actually have shorter custodial times than sentencing under the provisions of the Youth Criminal Justice Act. What is important is that we as a society use the social programs, or create those programs, that we know in our hearts should be mandatory, to try to change the outlook and the perspectives of extremely violent individuals. If that is the objective, we cannot do that by providing absolutely minimal sentences or zero consequences, or zero denunciation or deterrence in Canadian society.
Our kids are extremely bright and they see what goes on when individuals steal cars and there's no consequence. They see what goes on when an individual rapes a 14-year-old girl and there is no consequence for that. We need to be able to set examples as adults, as parents, so that other children grow up in our societies with a respect for the law and a respect for human rights.