I think my response to that is that it's also a good example of poor judicial decision-making, but let me go on.
Mr. MacDonald, the concern that you raised around the youth out of control and how... That's what this is all about. I think both from the government side and our side we recognize that 5%, if Mr. Hawkes is right on the percentage, and it's probably pretty close, 5% or 7%... The difficulty I have is I started practising when the Juvenile Delinquents Act was still in effect, and then the Young Offenders Act came in--