Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I want to commend all the witnesses for being here today. It's really very refreshing to hear from people who have front-line experience and legal reasoning. I can't tell you how frustrating it is to listen to witness after witness come and make suggestions about what's in the bill, which are totally without foundation. I've appreciated what you have all had to say. You've made a good case for the fact that the pre-trial detention provisions of Bill C-4 don't go as far as you would like, and the adult sentencing provisions actually make it more difficult to give a young offender an adult sentence. In fact, the deferred sentencing provisions make it easier to give young offenders a deferred or conditional sentence. So thank you for all of that.
I'd like to ask Mr. Hawkes a question. If I'm not mistaken, he has a copy of the existing act in front of him. No?