Mr. McIsaac, with you as well, I want to pursue a bit the point Mr. Sauvé raised about the mindset of the person who would become eligible at the 15th year to make the application, and why they wouldn't do it. I think, having watched too much TV, we all have this stereotype of a con as figuring that the first chance they get they're going to do it. Mr. Sauvé has given us some comments about that. I can understand how initially at the 15th, 16th, 17th, and maybe even 18th year...but when you're getting up to the 20th year, you still have a large number of these prisoners, much more than a majority of these prisoners, not applying. Could you expand on that? I don't understand why they would not.
