Okay. I have a list. I can go through them: R. v. Campbell, R. v. Coffin, R. v. Dobis, R. v. Leefe, R. v. Massoudinia, R. v. McCarthy, R. v. McCullough, and R. v. Nottingham. These are all cases in which the fraud was over a million dollars and the accused received a sentence of less than two years. This was between 2002 and 2009. I also have a list of another 11 cases in which the accused committed a fraud of between $500,000 and $1 million and received a sentence of less than two years.
Right there are 21 cases in the last eight years in which the accused committed a white-collar crime of the type that we're discussing today and had a sentence of less than two years imposed. You mentioned in your comments that you didn't think it was necessary to have a two-year minimum because you thought that most of these cases resulted in a sentence of more than two years. So how do you explain those cases?