Sure. This notion has been around a long time, as I said. It began some 10 years ago, or in 1997. I think back then it was called “volume discounts” under the Liberal government. This time it's called “discounts”.
I think it was really put into context by one of the members of Parliament, who mentioned that the ombudsman's office had a long list. Trust me: there are a lot of victims out there, but not many who really want to, or can, or have the strength to, stand up and say, “No, no, no”, or go before cameras or appear before committees. Why do we do it? I don't know. I can't answer that. There are so many victims who don't want to.
Ray made mention that in our justice system there are so many government-funded organizations that have the capacity to hire researchers, to hire professors of criminology, to have proper statistics, and to come to these hearings fully prepared. On the victim side, we're not there yet.
I feel that, first, we must address public safety. That's for all Canadians. Services for victims of crime will help us, but that's a totally separate issue. We should not confuse public safety issues and resources for victims of crime. We'll get there in a different way.