It's interesting to listen to the parliamentary secretary. You obviously didn't hear the advocate for victims in this country and the points I've tried to raise on a number of occasions about making absolutely sure that the maximum amount of information goes to victims. This section would guarantee that. I agree, I can't conceive of very many judges who wouldn't, in the circumstances that they were going to apply this law, give written reasons. Quite frankly, if they didn't give written reasons, they would be admonished by the court of appeal for not having given written reasons.
More importantly, setting that technical part aside, the victims will hear very clearly from the judge why this person should get an extra 25 years with no opportunity for parole. That's the reason we should support this section. Government should support it as well.