I can support that comment. As somebody who lives in that world by virtue of my occupation, I think these offenders are like-minded individuals, and as my colleague said, they try to normalize their behaviour.
Speaking on deterrence, I can also say that intercepting and chatting with these people, I know that once a law enforcement technique gets out there, it goes worldwide very quickly. If a sentence gets out there, or there is the possibility of a sentence being increased or minimum sentencing, that will get out there as well.
So I'm not speaking to the deterrence of the one person who is charged; I'm speaking to the deterrence of all the people who are communicating on perhaps that chat line or in that forum. That will get out there.
Whether or not they know that it's immoral, I can't really speak to that. They definitely know that it's illegal.