I want to address that, because, yes, in Toronto the criminal organization legislation has been used against those gangs, and I want to reply specifically in terms of another impact that has.
You've got Malvern, where 64 people were rounded up. That's fine and dandy. It's a street gang, and probably Malvern felt something right after that, but it had a very real impact on the criminal justice system, and I don't think that's something we fully take into account.
I had a judge come to the LLM class and talk about how you handle something like that. The traditional way that criminal justice usually operates, in terms of a bifurcation between the role of the police, the role of lawyers, the prosecution, and the judge goes out the window because they can't handle that many accused people. So you get all kinds of renegotiations and conversations that bring the judge into the justice system at a very early point.
I'm not certain that people are aware of what that kind of a takedown.... And of course we know that out of that 64, the numbers drifted away. I don't know what the result was, in terms of how many people were charged, but in the process, the criminal justice system took a big shock.