Yes, I did. To be aware of the experience of our American neighbours, the reference was to the State of Texas, where it was found that mandatory sentences in and of themselves did not necessarily result in a decrease in the rate of crime.
I think he was speaking to the need to consider carefully programs that would support rehabilitation and that would potentially also, when deemed appropriate by society, keep these young offenders out of the mainstream if necessary. That was my interpretation of what the judge's comments meant within the context of that interview.