Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. and Mrs. Wamback and Mr. Penner, I echo Mr. Murphy's comments in terms of the pain and suffering you've gone through and the way our criminal justice system has failed you. Because that's the reality: it has failed you.
Mr. Wamback, I guess I want to take issue.... I did this on Monday with other victims of abuse and violence by young offenders. I've studied this. I am a lawyer and have spent a lot of my career, early on in particular, working in this field, and on both sides.
When I first saw this legislation, my initial reaction was to say: “What are we doing? This doesn't help.” I assume you've read the Nunn report--